Discussed in the podcast:
01:10 – Clay’s opt-ins have recently tripled
02:27 – Offer instant value with your opt-ins
04:22 – Some good freebies
06:59 – Clay demonstrates
12:27 – It’s cloneable
14:15 – Make it convenient for your audience
15:52 – What you can do after they opt in
James Schramko here. Welcome to this special video episode of SuperFastBusiness. And what we’re looking at right now, on screen, is Clay Collins’ computer. Welcome, Clay!
Clay: James, it is awesome to be here. It’s been awhile since we’ve spoken publicly, in front of others and it’s awesome to be back on the show. You’re my favorite interviewer.
Tripled Opt-In Rate
James: Well you’re the most frequent guest on SuperFastBusiness ever, so, that is because everything we talked about is interesting for our customers. And you’ve always got something new and today we’re taking it up a notch. We go from the usual audio to audio visual and you’ve got some really cool stuff to show us.
The thing that really piqued my interest was when you were talking about how you tripled the number of opt-ins that you’re getting on your website. And I thought this is something we must share for our entire audience so that’s why I’m putting it out there.
So, if someone’s listening to this on iTunes on a podcast, they would probably should head over to SuperFastBusiness.com and find the episode where we’re talking about “How To Triple Your Opt-Ins” and you’ll be able to watch this presentation in video call.
Clay: Awesome. Awesome. Yes, so this is actually, we recently in the last week tripled the amount of opt-ins that we’re getting from our website and for those of you who don’t know who I am, that’s totally OK. I’m not, like, famous or anything. But I spend my entire life maniacally finding ways to get the highest conversion rates possible.
So the fact that we tripled, almost quadrupled, the percentage of people that show up on our website that ended up opting in is actually… it’s a big thing because I haven’t had this big of a game for several years now. And this is all I think about and do, day in and day out. I mean you could attest to that James, right? Like, that’s all we ever talk about.
James: Yeah, everytime we talk, it’s like you’ve got an entire new thing happening that most people would be happy with it. That was all they add and you just keep innovating and innovating and innovating. You’re like the… probably the most prolific, passionate person I know in this tech space. So I love seeing what little adventures you’ve been up to that’s why we report back so often.
Clay: Cool. Cool. So what we’re looking at here is stats in my LeadPages accounts. So, LeadPages gives you opt-in rates on your various pages. So what I did the other day on our blog is I decided that I was going to rather than just let people download from a naked download link, something that we’re giving away for that episode, rather than letting people just directly download it, what we do is something like this:
So in this episode of the LeadPages blog, we’re giving away a template to download to any page template. So rather than just linking directly to the template file, what we did was we made this an opt-in. So when you come here, you can opt-in to download this. And it worked incredibly well. Not just because of what you’re seeing right here, right? So people get on our list.
But then after they get on the list, the Thank You page has this, “Thanks for signing up. Everything we promised you will be sent to your inbox shortly. While you wait for materials to arrive via email, we recommend you click continue below to learn more about LeadPages and what it can do for your business.” So this actually brings people to our Sales Page.
So not only are we growing our list, we’re driving more people to our sales page AND when people get on the list, they’re getting a follow-up series of emails that talk about our product and what it does and provide a whole lot of educational value.
So kind of the takeaway here for everyone is that regardless of what you’re doing and what you’re posting about in your blog post, you can find a reason to give something away in exchange for the opt-in with every single blog post. So if you have a recipe site where you talk about health and you’re giving away a recipe, you can have someone opt-in to download a PDF recipe.
If you’re explaining how to do something, you can give away a checklist that goes with your blog post. Kind of a poor man’s or lazy man’s way of doing it is if you have a blog post, you can simply take that blog post, put it in a PDF editor or I’m sorry, in a Word processor, save as a PDF and just give away the PDF version of that blog post.
And that just skyrockets your opt-in rate because it means that, as opposed to what most people do, where they kind of have a general opt-in on the side of your blog, you’re actually offering someone a customized incentive that is specific to the blog post they just read that gets them to opt-in and this again has tripled our opt-in rate.
So, if you look at our pages right here, we went to every single blog post where we gave something away, and we added an opt-in box or we took those posts where we had nothing to give away and we found as many of those, we found an excuse to give something away that’s specific to that blog post.
And we put this up like maybe four or five days ago and as you can see, this one got 65 opt-ins, 10 opt-ins, 17 opt-ins, 13, 23, 72, 19… these individually aren’t bringing a lot again over the last few days, but when you add them up, this is just page one, and here’s page two.
Again, 150 opt-ins, 29 opt-ins, 29 opt-ins, 22 opt-ins, 42, 41, and as you can see, the opt-in rates of these are incredibly high: 79%, 84%, 83%, 81%. So the volume is good, considering how many of these are here, and the opt-in rate is just through the roof.
James: OK, I’m sold on this idea because I already transcribed every single video and audio. So I’m simply going to create an email segment in my database and I’ll have a tag, PDF download or segment it even further. Then we create a click to download link underneath the lesson.
James: Click to download the PDF version of this post and then after they get the download, they have a click to see our other products or how we can help you page. How do we do it? How do we make it work? What is my team doing? They watch this, I say, check out this video I just did with Clay, make it happen. We’ve got a LeadPages account, what do we do?
Clay: Alright, so, here’s what I suggest you do, go into your LeadPages account, go into templates. And let’s say you’re going to make a downloadable… let’s just do one for this episode. You’re going to make this video, you’ll probably post it on YouTube, but people can download this video so they can email it to other people.
Let’s just hypothesize that people can opt-in for this post, to download this video and a transcript for this video. What you would do is: first you need somewhere for people to opt-in. So you could do something like this. You could put your logo right here. I don’t think I have your logo on my… I haven’t uploaded it yet to my system.
So maybe we could just turn off the logo. So, maybe we’ll do something like this, “Awesome Freebies From James Schramko and…” I misspelled your name, sorry.
James: I wasn’t going to say anything. Still you could put an H there. Now you’re just messing with me. You’re doing a John Carlton. He calls me Shrak because he can’t be bothered. That’s perfect!
Clay: C-H-R-A… I got that right, right?
James: Yeah, it’s 100%.
Clay: OK. OK, cool. So we’ve got this. Maybe we’ll just leave it from like James… maybe we’ll just keep it on one line here… from James. And then it might say here like you know, “Opt-In Below To Download The Clay Collins…” maybe say, “The Video Where James and Clay Talk About Tripling Your Opt-In Rate.” Something like this. And then here, maybe we just take that out. And here, a lot of people put in different things.
I think we can just put in this download box like this and then we found that “Download Now” works better than “Free Instant Access,” so we’ll just change this to say, “Download Now” and so it brings up the opt-in box. And then, let’s just save this right now. We’ll create a opt-in, I’ll call this James Example. I’m doing a public spelling which is never good for me. We’ll go to opt-in form integration, and you know, I use…
James: I use OfficeAutopilot.
Clay: Cool. So I’ll just… I think I’ll do this one. Do you click the first name field?
James: I don’t.
Clay: OK, so we’ll turn this off. We’ll turn off GoToWebinar and here’s what’s cool. You can actually, for every one of these that you set up, you can have LeadPages hand out the video or whatever the giveaway is. You can have LeadPages deliver that. So that means that you don’t have to create a new form and a new autoresponder and a new email list for every freebie that you give away.
You can just add someone to the house list and giveaway… we haven’t uploaded it yet but let’s say, this is what we give away. So you can just select from all the files that you’ve uploaded to LeadPages, and you can have LeadPages email people when the file comes in. It looks… the email just kind of looks like this.
It has the name of the thing and just a short description of the download and so far, these emails that LeadPages send out are ending up in the priority inbox in Google, like the good one, the personal one, not in the commercial mail one.
James: Very nice.
Clay: Yeah, so we’ve set all these up… Oh! Why don’t we give people this template right here? Are you down with giving people the template for this kind of file?
James: Yeah that’s fine.
Clay: Yeah OK so, “…To download the video where James… opt-in rate… and the template you see on the video.” So, I’ll just email this to you and you can set this up on your account.
Clay: So we save this and then all you do is… oh wait, do we set up the integration? OK, wait, I forgot to set up the integration. So I’ll go to here and…sorry I forgot to save it last time I did it. OK, so save… Bam!
So now this file is here on the Internet and you can just, below your blog posts, you can just say, click here to download what we talked about and then people can get that. So just set up one of these for every single blog post and you know, put your logo there and stuff. But this is all you have to do.
James: One you do one, you can just clone it, right?
Clay: I mean that’s what we did so if you look at sort of all the ones that we made here or all the templates, we basically just swap out the name of the lead magnet. So, here we have labels for all these. So if you look at… I’ll just show you the ones we use and again, they all look the same. We’ve cloned them all. So here’s one and every single one looks the same, we just sort of swap out “Use This Proven” and then whatever it says here.
We just swap that out for the name of the new template. So yeah you can just set one up and you can have your team clone it over and over and over again for every single blog post.
James: Yeah, we’re going to be doing that. So, I expect that we’ll be able to track a change. When you first talked to me about this idea, I didn’t connect it as well as you just showed me the second page which is the part that I’m super interested in, which is “Click here to see our other products or other ways we can help you” and send them back to the one page I really want people after they’ve opted-in.
There’s only two things I want someone to do in SuperFastBusiness. It’s to opt-in, so I can communicate with them regularly, and it’s to go to my products page to find the problem that relates to their situation and then to click on our solution and then to make a purchase. And that is how that site is so successful.
So this is a step we’re going to build and it’s simple. This is one of those moments where there’s really nothing else to say. There’s no extra filler or fluff. Just do this. Use the tool. Put it into play and I’ll be able to report back on the results that we get having implemented this.
Clay: Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, there’s something… I don’t know what it is, there’s something about having the opt-in be extremely specific to what just happened in that episode.
Like I bet people watching this one will be like, yeah, it’s fun to watch this on YouTube but I kind of want to have it on my computer and pause and start and roll it back and it’ll be nice to download the transcript and maybe the audio version and then also they can get this template that I’ll give to you to give away.
James: I know for a fact there is because having a membership community, the first thing people ask If I put a new video in there is can I have the transcription? Can I have the download link? They like to consume their media on their own terms, especially when people are busy. I want to put things on a customer’s desktop, it’s like a trojan horse.
That PDF lives there for a long time. Comes up in the search, it’s like, six months later, “Oh! There was that thing that Clay and James were talking about. I’ll have a look at that.” They go along and buy LeadPages. It’s going to work out well for everyone.
Clay: Yeah, and you know I think it’s true that a lot of people might say, Hey, I could just scrape the transcript and put it in my Word processor and save it. And I guess I could go to… I could get that plugin that allows you to download YouTube videos and I could do all these different things.
But giving it to folks in one like packaged zip file where it’s all there, it’s properly labeled and organized, just the convenience of having that available can motivate people to opt-in. And then once they’ve opted in, now you send them to your sales page or something like that.
Automate The Sequence
James: And also in systems like mine, people keep putting their email on for different things, they’re already double opt-in confirmed in my system. They’re just adding tags on each segment.
I would make a tag and call it, PDF and then I could communicate with those people knowing that they were hyper-responsive and interested in downloading extra materials so that I could have a different conversation with them. I could even automate the sequence.
Clay: Yeah, that’s super cool. I dig that. I dig that a lot. Well, I’ve learned something from you now, too. Now we need to segment.
James: Ah you know, one of those links on these pages I’m tempted to put a redirect that adds a tag and creates a sequence. I’ll give one tip away in this seminar. That little link on the bottom of my emails that says “This email was sent with OAP.” When people click on that, it tags them interested in OAP and a day later it sends out an email why I switched from AWeber to OAP…
James: …and that’s 10-fold increase in my commission, just by adding that sequence, that one follow-up email. So I’m going to use some tag sequence, redirects and these templates here. So I’ll probably set-up the first for myself like I like to do, and then we’re going to see what happens to the opt-ins.
Clay: Oh that’s genius. Alright. Well, we both learn from each other here. This is amazing.
James: Clay, everytime you come on, we’ve picked up something amazing. I want to say thank you so much for sharing this with us, this is not a long session. This is a powerful session. So, the action step for our viewer, for our listener, is to implement this on your site. Come back to this post. Tell us what happens and I’ll certainly be updating with the comments with happens on my site as well.
Clay: Awesome. Awesome. And if you post a link, I’ll grab it and I’ll feature it in a round up of people that are employing strategy because I think it’s really powerful and it uses some of the lesser-known features of LeadPages that I’d like to highlight a little bit more. So if you want a link from my blog, leave it on James’ and I’ll feature a bunch of people. Maybe get some people opt-in to your list.
James: Awesome! Thanks, Clay!
Clay: Absolutely, James. It’s a pleasure. Thanks for having me on again.
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