James: Step 7, the last one, enjoy freedom to create and reinvent every single day. I feel like we’ve touched on that a little bit.
Perry: We have but there’s another part to that. There’s two kinds of Renaissance time. There’s the reflective Renaissance time which is your morning time, but there’s another kind and that’s exploration.
I’ll just give you the really short version for the workaholics and it’s this. You need to have recreation. If you don’t have recreation in your life, you’re screwing up. And your recreation needs to be just as stimulating as your work. If you’re a hard-driving, creative, type A, make-it-happen person, you’re not gonna enjoy just playing Scrabble or, you know, quietly reading a novel while you sit in a lounge chair. Like, James, you go surfing.
James: Every day, I’m surf-obsessed. I live for surfing, number one. I’m like an amateur surfer with a business to the side.
Perry: Yeah. Okay. That is important because we’ve never talked about this but is it not true? You get your best business ideas on the surfboard.
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