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Disclaimer: This episode features Dan Norris sharing his personal account of his time as a co-founder of Black Hops Brewery. The views expressed are his alone.
James does not endorse or verify any claims or opinions shared, having no first-hand knowledge of these events. This content is for informational purposes only and should not be seen as legal findings or investigative reporting.
Others involved may hold different perspectives. All individuals named are presumed to have acted lawfully unless proven otherwise.
People love a good success story. But few are willing to tell you what it feels like when success grows too fast, debt piles up, and the business you built with everything you have falls apart in public.
This is the story Dan Norris shared in a long, raw conversation about his time as co-founder of Black Hops Brewery. It is not a story of easy wins. It is a story of how fast growth and blurred lines can lead to an outcome you never imagined.
Table of contents:
1. The dream that became a burden
2. The hidden cost of growth
3. When control slips away
4. The human toll
5. What he would do differently
6. A cautionary tale for every founder
7. Final thoughts
The dream that became a burden
Dan helped build Australia’s top craft brewery. The business hit $16 million in revenue, won awards, and looked unstoppable.
On paper, his stake was worth $15 million. But behind the scenes, cracks were forming.
Production costs climbed after a big roster change. Cash flow no longer kept up. Personal relationships inside the business complicated everything.
The hidden cost of growth
When your business is growing quickly, you start to believe growth will fix every problem. Dan described how it became clear in 2022 that the numbers no longer added up.
He wrote detailed reports showing why the forecasts were unrealistic. He tried to convince his partners to act before it was too late. But optimism, fear, and indecision kept the company on the same path.
When control slips away
Dan signed personal guarantees when the business was healthy, believing it was a small risk. But when he lost operational control, those guarantees became a trap.
He felt the business was trading while insolvent. Staying on would have meant breaking the law. So he walked away, knowing it would likely cost him everything he had built.
The human toll
Stepping back did not end the struggle. The company went into voluntary administration. Creditors and investors lost millions.
Dan also lost his home, savings, and reputation. He describes the feeling as surreal. One day he was the CEO of a leading brewery. The next, he was delivering coffee orders at dawn to stay afloat.
What he would do differently
Reflecting on it, Dan said he would never again sign personal guarantees without having full control of the company. He would also avoid tying his identity so closely to one venture.
He now runs a small coffee business focused on profitability, not growth. He works with his partner and keeps the operation lean. He does not plan to build another empire.
A cautionary tale for every founder
Most people think more revenue solves every problem. Dan’s story is proof that growth can hide risks until it is too late.
If you run a business, ask yourself: Do you know your numbers? Are you protecting yourself if things go wrong? Are you prepared to act fast when you see danger ahead?
These questions are not just for big companies. They matter for any founder who wants to build something that lasts.
Final thoughts
Dan Norris shared his story because he believes transparency matters more than saving face. He hopes it helps others avoid the same mistakes.
If you take one thing away, let it be this: growth is not the goal. Staying in control, protecting your peace, and building something you can sustain is what counts.
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I read Dan’s blog last week, this was an interesting additional insight.
He is so open despite the hurt I can feel !
Your comment about the salt water not caring reminded me of sailing in Auckland harbour after a busy week at work – as we crossed the bar my mate would hand me a beer and I would say – “If world war 3 starts tell me when I get home”
so true Jim! Thank you for commenting